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When Independent Senator Steve Fielding met with Australian Climate Change Minister Penny Wong and her chief scientist Professor Penny Sackett he asked one simple question:

Isn’t it true that carbon emissions have been going up and global temperature hasn’t?

Simple enough question I would have thought. After all isn’t that why the Rudd government is pushing ahead with its Carbon pollution Reductions Scheme, because rising CO2 levels are causing global warming. Should have been easy enough to answer. Senator Fielding explains to AM’s Tony Eastley:

Look, firstly I would have to say I am not a sceptic but at the same token, I do want to get to the bottom of the issues. Now up until now, we have seen carbon emissions go up and global temperatures, the way the IPCC has been measuring them, not going up.

Astoundingly Penny Wong has told Steve Fielding that her and the governments scientists would have to get back to him on that.

Steve Fielding

they wanted to rephrase my question not answer it so I have got an agreement with Penny Wong that she would answer my question over the next day or so.

So I am hoping to get that either later today or tomorrow and then we can get to the bottom of it.

Because really, that is a fundamental question – is carbon emissions driving up global temperatures – and there is a question mark over it.

Haven’t we been repeatedly told the science is settled, runaway climate change is at a tipping point etc etc. Are we (the so branded sceptics) the only ones who have noticed for the last decade that the IPCC modelling of increasing global temperatures is not happening even though CO2 levels continue to rise.

What?.. the Australian Climate Change minister and her army of government scientist not to mention a house full of federal politicians (bar the Nationals who read Agmates and can use google search) have not seen the data which is accessible to anybody via a handful of computer clicks.

What else can I say – Unbelievable.

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Agmates Editor Steve Truman

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SE QLD Farmer and Chairman of the Carbon Sense Coalition Viv Forbes writes:

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Viv Forbes

Australian farmers pay livestock levies, research levies, marketing levies and taxes on every product they sell. These support an army of officials supposedly representing their interests, the Meat and Livestock Corporation, the Wool Corporation, CSIRO and the numerous state and federal agriculture departments and politicians.

But not one of these has defended the industry from the obviously fraudulent claim that animal emissions play a significant part in causing global warming.

It does not take even high school science to understand that all animals are part of the natural carbon cycle that uses plants to take carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, and then uses solar energy to convert this to plant sugars and proteins. The carbon is then taken up by animals that live on plants, and finally returned to the atmosphere as carbon dioxide and methane as these animals exhale, excrete or expire.

Carbon dioxide is a harmless natural plant food. Methane is another harmless natural gas which is oxidised in the atmosphere to carbon dioxide and water. Then whole cycle starts again with no net addition to so-called greenhouse gases.

The phrase ‘ashes to ashes and dust to dust’ expresses more understanding of the carbon cycle than all the failed computerised climate models that rate animal emissions as significant factors in climate change.

Animals and plants have always been cycling carbon dioxide and methane with no long term or permanent effect on climate. The wild herds of mammoths, aurochs, reindeer, wildebeest, zebra, bison, antelope, wild sheep, warthogs, horses, camels, rabbits and kangaroos have just been partially replaced by domesticated cattle, sheep, goats, buffalo and pigs.

All are part of the natural world and none of them have any long term effect on the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

To threaten a carbon tax on animal emissions without recognising an equal credit for the carbon dioxide extracted by them from the atmosphere is shoddy science and shoddy accounting. Surely for all the taxes and levies they pay, farmers can get at least one government scientist, official or carbon accountant willing to state the obvious:

‘Cattle and sheep are as green as grass and trees and should not be penalised by any future carbon tax on their emissions’.

Governments should state this clearly now and stop including animal emissions in their spurious carbon accounting.

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President of The Climate Sceptics Leon Ashby [pictured] writes:

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On Saturday 28th March the new political party, The Climate Sceptics held their first public meeting in Singleton NSW   explaining the science and the economics of the misguided belief that CO2 is the cause of Climate change and an Emission trading Scheme will save the planet.

Secretary of the Climate Sceptics, Newcastle Lawyer Anthony Cox gave the presentation to 25 people and explained how CO2 cannot be the cause of decadel changes in the earths temperature which has been both warmer and cooler in the past centuries before any CO2 emission of consequence began being emitted 60 years ago.

He also showed how Global temperatures have started decreasing since 1998 which again is evidence CO2 is not effecting the climate.

The first meetings we have will no doubt be modest affairs as we have a huge job in re educating the public about the facts that run counter to the brainwashing being done on the subject.  This meeting was held on the day the media was hyping up Earth hour without questioning the proponents for evidence CO2 actually causes climate change.

As well as presenting science evidence for The party`s position on climate change, we will be highlighting the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) will cost each taxpayer $4,550 per year from 2010 and steadily increase to $91,000 per year in 2060.

The aim of an ETS is to rid our society of using fuels or cheap coal generated electricity. An absurd idea since there is no evidence CO2 effects climate.

The attached graph shows a comparative cost of the ETS with todays Global financial crisis (where Australia is going into debt $42 billion this year)

Even if it costs Australia $200 billion to get out of this financial crisis this is very small next the the ETS which will cost Australia approx $1,000 billion per year by 2060

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This Green tax will not effect climate change (because Climate change is caused by natural factors.) but it will make our society go backwards and give us all a lower standard of living.

The evidence Climate change is effected by natural factors is the correlation between the sunspot cycle length and the earth`s global temperature (see slide 2 attached)

Several of those attending the meeting were surprised at the evidence presented. Subsequent meetings are now being planned in other towns

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For more details Contact

Leon Ashby
President “The Climate Sceptics”
PO box 721, Mt Gambier, SA 5290
(447 Chambers Rd Mt Gambier SA 5290)
Ph 0887259561 or 0887235550

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“Introducing (though to many he needs no introduction) Agmates member Allan Yeomans.

I have tremendous respect for Allan and personally regard him as  of the great contemporary “thinkers” in world Agriculture. I approached Allan last week to see if he would share some of his wisdom, knowledge and insights with our online community.

Like all of us here at Agmates Allan has a burning passion for the betterment of the rural industry. Although this piece is twice as long as what I’d normally publish, it is an absolute cracker -

Your Agmate -Steve”

Allan [pictured below] writes.

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To fix global warming: is improving soil better than planting trees? We have to decide.

Back in the late 1980s I proposed the concept that we could combat global warming by sequestering atmospheric carbon dioxide from the air and converting it into soil organic matter.

Thankfully the idea has spread and is beginning to be considered seriously by those knowledgeable in soil science and atmospherics. But sadly not fast enough.

The Keyline System of soil land management was designed and developed by my father P.A. Yeomans on our family farms at North Richmond N.S.W. in the late forties and early 1950s.

Keyline management includes techniques for the rapid enhancement of soil fertility. Keyline is now taught in agricultural colleges and universities around the world. I’m a moderately competent meteorologist as my sport is flying and racing gliders. I’ve also lectured on meteorology.

Putting the two disciplines together presented an unusual concept. Soil enhancement, on a world scale could beat global warming; and all the climate change horrors would stop.

Regrettably the concept receiving exclusive government support and copious media attention is not soil; it’s the planting of trees.

So let’s compare, let’s first look at soil.

In my writings and lectures and in my book “PRIORITY ONE Together We Can Beat Global Warming” I argue we can restore the atmosphere to normal by increasing the organic matter in the world’s soils directly under man’s control by 1.6 percentage points (That’s a one percentage point rise in actual carbon).

The terms humus and organic matter are somewhat interchangeable. Both are the stuff that makes rich soil black. Organic farmers often exceed that 1.6 figure tenfold. It’s not hard to do.

So in essence we switch to an agricultural system that generally approaches that used by organic farmers. Keyline is itself such a system. We either stop using or drastically minimise the use of agricultural chemicals such as pesticides, fungicides, most herbicides and particularly ammonia based fertilisers. Those chemicals kill soil friendly earthworms as well as the friendly bacteria and fungicides that convert dead plant material into rich humus.

We re-adopt the old practice of crop rotation that sustained agriculture and food production for centuries.

And we also stop the practice of “turning the soil”. Turning a clod of soil upside down plays havoc with the specialised life cycle of our friendly soil bacteria, earthworms and fungi.

A hectare of soil 30 cm, a foot or 3 hands-width deep weighs about 4000 tonnes. A 1.6 percentage point increase in soil organic matter content is thus about 64 tonnes per hectare or near 40 tonnes of carbon. And to create that increase in soil fertility extracts 145 tonnes of carbon dioxide from the air.

An organic farmer, in the first few years will often sequester 150 tonnes of carbon dioxide from the air while massively enriching his soil and simultaneously producing huge quantities of healthy, tasty and nutritious crops. Production costs and yields for large scale organic farming are surprisingly similar to conventional based agriculture.

About three quarters of a hectare of agricultural land, grazing land, cropland, golf courses or whatever is every human’s individual foot print on our Earth. Remember that number.

Now let’s look at trees.

A reasonably productive forest, from planting the seedling to the maturity of the forest produces about 20 cubic metres of wood per hectare per year, which equates to about nine tonnes of carbon.

Generally forests can be considered to reach maturity in about 20 years. At which time the forest releases carbon dioxide as fast as it is sequestering it and the forest thus becomes completely and utterly, global warming neutral and note that global warming protocols (e.g. Kyoto) mandate no harvesting nor clearing for 100 years,

Let’s say we planted enough trees to sequest the carbon dioxide we produce.

Every human in a modern western society would need about three quarters of a hectare of new forest to sequest the carbon dioxide produced from the burning of the coal, gas or oil to cover that person’s footprint of power requirements, and another three quarters of a hectare to cater for the car she or he might drive.

Within 20 years we would need another three quarter hectare of new plantings for each human and each car. If we all had a reasonable lifestyle and standard of living then, most unfortunately, within 20 years there would be no agricultural land, no grazing lands, no golf courses and absolutely no place anywhere on Earth to grow any food whatever. Those lands would be all forests. And yet more forests would need to be planted.

That’s the arithmetic of the trees.

Additionally if you’ve ever grown trees from seedlings you’d know the trouble, care, the watering and nurturing it takes.

Tree seedlings have a high attrition rate so would need to plant between 400 and 4000 seedlings per hectare. So depending on the tree type and variety you would need to plant anywhere from 300 to 3000 seedlings in your three quarter hectare plot every twenty years.

So why have trees become flavour of the month to beat global warming? Sherlock Holmes told Watson “Look for those who will benefit”. And I don’t think the planet will.

The agrochemical people believe more chemicals produce more food per hectare, and food demand is constant. So take some agricultural land out of production and the rest needs more chemicals.

Then “wasting” the land left on growing biofuel becomes antisocial. That’s good for the oil people.

Have concerned citizens preoccupied with trees and they’re successfully blindsided. That’s good.

So I say to you, “first get understanding”.

I’m Allan Yeomans

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Australian prime Minister Kevin Rudd has been busy over his summer break writing an 8,000 word manifesto advocating  “A New World Order”.

KEVIN RUDD has denounced the unfettered capitalism of the past three decades and called for a new era of “social capitalism” in which government intervention and regulation feature heavily.

As we all know PM Rudd  is also a global champion of establishing the Al Gore inspired Global Carbon Constrained Economies. Come hell or high water he plans to introduce an emissions trading scheme in Australia in June 2010.

Yesterday at the Global economic forum in Davos Switzerland Czech Republic President Vaclav Klaus squarely took aim at Gore and the Global warming camp.

Czech President Vaclav Klaus

“I don’t think that there is any global warming,” said the 67-year-old liberal, whose country holds the rotating presidency of the European Union.

“I don’t see the statistical data for that.”

Referring to the former US vice president Al Gore, who attended Davos this year, he added:

“I’m very sorry that some people like Al Gore are not ready to listen to the competing theories. I do listen to them.

Environmentalism and the global warming alarmism is challenging our freedom. Al Gore is an important person in this movement.”

For an insight into what Klaus was referring to by “challenging our freedom” lets turn to a Quote by President of the Czech Republic included in May 2007 paper by Prof Bob Carter from Townsville University:

“As someone who lived under communism for most of my life I feel obliged to say that the biggest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and prosperity at the beginning of the 21st century is not communism or its various softer variants.

Communism (has been) replaced by the threat of ambitious environmentalism … The environmentalists consider their ideas and arguments to be an undisputable truth and use sophisticated methods of media manipulation and PR campaigns to exert pressure on policymakers to achieve their goals.

Their argumentation is based on the spreading of fear and panic by declaring the future of the world to be under serious threat. In such an atmosphere they continue pushing policymakers to adopt illiberal measures, impose arbitrary limits, regulations, prohibitions, and restrictions on everyday human activities and make people subject to omnipotent bureaucratic decision-making …

Man-made climate change has become one of the most dangerous arguments aimed at distorting human efforts and public policies in the whole world.”

Is anybody else out there starting to join the dots.

Australian PM Kevin Rudd championing a “New World Order” ………….. and leading the rest of the western world into an Emissions Trading Scheme.

I have actually come to believe that Australia enacting an emissions trading scheme has nothing to do with the environment.

(Thanks to Agmate Bev for the Bob Carter Extract)

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All over Australia in today’s media news headlines are touting a new scientific report that shows the Antarctic is warming faster than the earth and that the western half of the cap will melt.

Australian Global Warming Alarmist Professor Barry Brook [pictured] has seized on the report, in the words of Bob Dylan -

And the newspapers, they all went along for the ride.

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That’s bad news if you live near the Australian coast,” Prof Brook said.

“In some areas where you’ve currently got housing, you’d probably have to abandon those areas.”

He said the sea would penetrate up to 1km inland in flat areas like South Australia’s lower lakes. Large areas which don’t see flooding now would get flooded by king tides.

House prices for coastal areas would probably drop, Prof Brook said.

Scientists already knew, he said, that the massive ice sheets of western Antarctica were melting, but the study showed they would melt more quickly.

The study, contained in today’s issue of Nature, was also bad news for climate change in general, Prof Brook said.

It had been thought Antarctica’s cooling would help restrain global warming by acting as a “cool pack”, but this did not appear to be the case.

Has Professor Brook reviewed the report? Here is what world renown and respected climatologist Dr Roger Pielke Snr [pictured] has written after being asked to review the report. Dr Pielke is not a climate sceptic, he’s a respected academic.

In terms of the significance of their paper, it overstates what they have obtained from their analysis. In the abstract they write, for example,

“West Antarctic warming exceeds 0.1C per decade over the past 50 years”.

However, even a cursory view of Figure 2 shows that since the late 1990s, the region has been cooling in their analysis in this region. The paper would be more balanced if they presented this result, even if they cannot explain why.

Please let me know if you would like more feedback. Thank you reaching out to include a broader perspective on these papers in your articles.

Regards, Roger

If Professor Brook had reviewed the report why, being a respected academic,  could he not have seen the same thing, namely that the report showed the area has been cooling for the past decade.

No doubt if property prices along the Southern Coastline of Australia plummet due to his widely reported comments today, there would ample reason and opportunity for those property owners to sue the arse off him.

Not very smart Barry.

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NSW farmer and Chairman of the Australian Beef Association (ABA) Brad Bellinger [pictured] writes:

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The ABA Board had met last week and decided to oppose any form of Emissions Trading. The Australian Government will be acting like speculative fools, if it goes down a path of trading something that cannot be accurately measured.

Since the 1997 Kyoto Summit, we have seen the UN try to run a Clean Development Mechanism, – with no success. We have seen the European Commission try Carbon Permits. They got their sums wrong and the large power and oil companies made fortunes at governments’ expense. The people are taxed – as they will be in Australia if we go down this mad path.

We have seen the World’s bankers make complete fools of themselves and bankrupt millions, as they trade in derivatives, which they haven’t completely understood. Now, Emissions Trading will be even worse, as people trade an unmeasurable commodity, as if in a gambling casino run by the unknowing. To see it even considered as the recession deepens; – makes one wonder.

The members of ABA try to make a living from raising cattle in a harsh environment. They have their feet on the ground. They hold in contempt the speculative airheads who are pushing unscientific hot air drivel onto Australians. These people have already demonstrated their utter impracticality in their inability to even sort out our major water problems.

ABA gives its full support to Barnaby Joyce and anyone else in Parliament who has the courage to point out the bleeding obvious – Emissions Trading is a con- act.

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Professor Bob Carter is an adjunct professor of geology at James Cook University and studies ancient climate change.He tells us that the world is cooling:

THE National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported that October in the US was marked by 63 record snowfalls and 115 lowest-ever temperatures.

Over the past few years, similar signs of colder than usual weather have been recorded all over the world, causing many people to question the still fashionable, but now long outdated, global warming alarmism. Yet individual weather events or spells, whether warmings or coolings, tell us nothing necessarily about true climate change.

Nonetheless, by coincidence, growing recognition of a threat of climatic cooling is correct, because since the turn of the 21st century all real world, long-term climate indicators have turned downwards.

Global atmospheric temperature reached a peak in 1998, has not warmed since 1995 and, has been cooling since 2002. Some people, still under the thrall of the Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change’s disproved projections of warming, seem surprised by this cooling trend, even to the point of denying it. But why?

Despite this incoming US President Barack Obama is ready to meet the Global warming crisis head on:

“Let us resolve that all nations will act with seriousness of purpose, and reduce the carbon we send into our atmosphere. This is the moment to give our children back their future. “- Barack Obama, Berlin Germany, July 24, 2008

“My presidency will mark a new chapter in America’s leadership on climate change that will strengthen our security and create millions of new jobs in the process.” – President-elect Barack Obama, Global Climate Summit, November 18, 2008 (video).

“The time for delay is over. The time for denial is over. We all believe what the scientists have been telling us for years now, that this is a matter of urgency and national security and it has to be dealt with in a serious way. That’s what I intend my administration to do.” Barack Obama, after meeting former Vice President Al Gore in Chicago, December 9, 2008.

All of this is of course music to Australian prime Minister Kevin Rudds ears. As Bob Carter puts it.

Introduction of a carbon dioxide tax to prevent (imaginary) warming, euphemistically disguised as an emissions trading scheme, is a politician’s, ticket clipper’s and mafia chief’s dream.

All will welcome a new source of income based on an invisible, colourless, odourless, tasteless and often unmeasurable gas. No commodity changes hands during its trading, and should carbon dioxide emissions actually decrease because of the existence of a carbon dioxide market (which is highly unlikely), the odds are that it will have no measurable effect on climate anyway.

Nonetheless, the glistening pot of gold which beckons to be mined from the innocent public is proving nigh irresistible, and it is going to need a strong taxpayer revolt to stop it in Australia.

The present global financial crisis should be inducing politicians not to squander money on non-solutions to non-problems. Yet to support their plans for emissions taxation Western governments, including ours, are still propagating scientifically juvenile greenhouse propaganda underpinned only by circumstantial evidence and GCM computer gamesmanship.

Perhaps a reassessment will finally occur when two-metre thick ice develops again on Father Thames at London Bridge, or when cooling causes massive crop failure in the world’s granary belts.

The emissions trading scheme will be the greatest tax generator any federal government has ever introduced. Try and talk them out of that idea.

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I published a column yesterday about NASA scientist and Global Warming high priest James Hansen saying that new US president Barack Obama had just 4 years to same the world from ‘runaway global warming’.

I asked Agmates blogger MattB if he could come up with the physical evidence of  Hansen’s quoted ‘runaway global warming’ and got no response. That’s because even while climate doomsayers lead by Hansen are getting more and more hysterical this is what is happening.

• The earth’s temperature peaked in 1998. It’s been falling ever since; it dropped dramatically in 2007 and got worse in 2008, when temperatures touched 1980 levels.

• Meanwhile, the University of Illinois’ Arctic Climate Research Center released conclusive satellite photos showing that Arctic ice is back to 1979 levels. What’s more, measurements of Antarctic ice now show that its accumulation is up 5 percent since 1980.

• In other words, during what was supposed to be massive global warming, the biggest chunks of ice on earth grew larger. Just as an aside, do you remember when the hole in the ozone layer was going to melt Antarctica? But don’t worry, we’re safe now, that was the nineties.

• Dr. Kunihiko, Chancellor of Japan’s Institute of Science and Technology said this: “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or the other … every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so.” Now why would a learned man say such a crazy thing?

• a massive study, just released by the Russian Government, contains overwhelming evidence that earth is on the verge of another Ice Age. Based on core samples from Russia’s Vostok Station in Antarctica, we now know earth’s atmosphere and temperature for the last 420,000 years. This evidence suggests that the 12,000 years of warmth we call the Holocene period is over.

• Apparently, we’re headed into an ice age of about 100,000 years — give or take. As for CO2 levels, core samples show conclusively they follow the earth’s temperature rise, not lead it.

How many years of the earth cooling, while CO2 levels rise will it take (we have had a decade now) before Kevin Rudd can work out that man-made global warming is a complete myth?

Unfortunately for PM Rudd this scam is unraveling before his eyes. But all he can see is the billion dollar tax revenues that his carbon tax will raise.

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Graham Readfern is one of the rabid greenies employed at News Limited’s Brisbane Courier Mail.

I’ve written about this clown before, I generally only comment on him if he slips one of his bullshit articles into the actual printed version of the paper like  here & here.

Readfern runs the papers online Green blog. His articles there are obvious Green propaganda and hence I don’t worry to much about them as he does not have a huge following as people know its just eco-fundamentalist raving.

On the Courier mail blog he is responsible for such classics as 100 months left , (no prizes for guessing what that ones about), How Much Is Enough – Eco-Sinner, or this classic prior to Christmas about Christmas lights destroying the planet.

Knowing that most of what he writes on the blog is rubbish we Aussies don’t tend to pay any attention to it, but that outrageous post about Christmas lights did upset people in the USA after the Drudge Report picked up the story.

Poor Graham was just a bit amazed at the 30 or so responses he received from the US Christmas revelers. Here is a sample:

Well Graham, you f***** idiot! How does it make you feel to be a zero in life! I think it’s people like you who are adding to the world’s pollution for just being alive and breathing without contributing a damn thing except to create furor and angst among most people. You are the epitome of what a passive aggressive shit head is, and I would personally would like to put a plastic bag over your head and see how long you can breath in the toxic shit you breath out so much.
To summarize – go to Hell!!!
Tucker

RE: Your article on the “scientists” and their opinion of Christmas lights. I have three words of advice for them. The first is “Go”, the second starts with F, and the third starts with Y.
Thanks,
Len in Tucson, Arizona, USA

You’re f****** “Flat Earth Wacko”, 100 hundred years of climate data and you think man is causing global warming….uh… climate change, or whatever you wack jobs are calling it this month. You and your kind make me puke. Shall we go back and live in our caves? I can’t wait till you and your kind are put away and forgotten. Funny how its “Christmas lights” and not “Holiday lights” now, F***** phony bastards.
Laverne

Why would you write such crap? How about you print out your worthless and tired global warming crap, and wipe your ass with it? Try checking real facts before you keep pushing the great global warming scam. I would give you a list of places that totally disprove global warming, but I’m sure you already know where they are.
Chris Brown
California City, CA

And so it Goes,  we Australians are so polite compared to our American friends, although we think it.

Anyway, earlier this week the dear greenie Graham had a crack at Barnaby Joyce over his stand on the Rudd Governments Emissions Trading Scheme. Joyce Taunts Greenies. What Readfern didn’t anticipate is just how much support Barnaby Joyce’s stand has in the community. Here is a sample of the reader comments.

I haven’t had much respect for any national over the many years I have followed politics but thank goodness there is finaly a politician with guts enough to stand up to the nonsense of thinking anything we do will have any affect on anything or anyone except to hurt the Ausralian economy….
john of whitsunday

This whole ETScam stinks to high heaven of Socialist wealth distribution. You have to look at who is driving this CC/AGW thing, and see that its mostly coming from the far-Left side of politics. Especially from the Greens who many of us colloquially call ‘watermelons’ because although they show a green environmental exterior, what lies beneath is an agenda of vicious, unrelenting, uncompromising socialist ideology. Rosemary

More power to Barnaby Joyce, he is only saying what many of us are thinking and already know but never put into voice for fear of raising the ire of AGW believers who seem to take any negative comment on their belief, personally.
k1w1 of Brisbane

Another federal politician has joined the ranks of the non believers. That makes it at least two now with Dr. Dennis Jensen being the other one. We now find that there are many others in the state legislatures who also have expressed doubts. The numbers are growing every day and their voices are getting a lot louder . … The numbers have been growing ever since just as the numbers of those supporting AGW theory are declining. Al Gore is looking more and more like a snake oil salesman as is James Hansen and his deputy Gavin Schmidt.
FROG of Ferny Hills

So now it has come down to an intense campaign, orchestrated by environmentalists claiming that the burning of fossil fuels dooms the planet to run-away global warming. Ladies and Gentlemen, that is a myth.
Dean of Underwood

Graham Readfearn
you are full of it, how much does news.com pay you to TRY and promote this scam to destroy our industry inflate the price of every thing for no gain what so ever, and make no change to the climate,try living on $550 before tax, maybe then you will wake up, but it is just a job for you and they need some one to do their DIRTY work don’t they.
michael

And Finally a comment that was submitted that Graham has to date chosen not to publish.

Graham, I am getting the impression that you are starting to clutch at straws here. What scientific qualifications do you have in this field? And what evidence have you actually witnessed outside of what you have read and heard?

My research suggests that you have had quite a colourful work history ranging from Glass Washer, Office Cleaner, Newspaper Delivery Boy, Waiter, Electrician’s Labourer, Breakfast Chef, Insurance Salesman, Pub Manager and, finally, a Journalist.

No doubt you probably have great life experience, perhaps even more than me. However, I didn’t see Scientist in your “CV”. If Climate Change is actually being caused by humans and not just normal natural cycles, then please someone “show me the money”. If someone can show me the physical evidence then I will gladly eat humble pie
Dean of Underwood

(Thanks to Agmate Dean)

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