Agmates

It must be remembered that to get the general population to accept, that a carbon tax in Australia is going to stop world climate change, you have to appeal to something other than common sense.

The only way to do this is appeal to the populations emotions. Lets not look at the facts they get in the way of logical thought and debate.

It is interesting how the term “climate change skeptic” still exists. I haven’t met one yet. The climate IS changing, we have had ice ages and warm periods in the past and the earth will continue to have them, irrespective of what we do in Australia in relation to carbon dioxide and methane emissions.

We could double emmissions today and double production and still be carbon tax free and neutral but nah hit em harder but smile and sympathise.

Food is now a weapon, fuel is a weapon, water is a weapon and now air itself is a weapon that can and does cause death injury pain and poverty.

read a history book the world has a regular history of flooding and tropical weather events….

this world changes and fights man on a daily basis…its coming round with or without you, the 747 and teevee and broadband just made it more public

Even the Artic used to be tropical with crocodiles..not so globally warm today is it

the carbon climate cult wont stop the frequency nor the return of iceages and warmer periods…sadly people think if they all jump together the world shakes…. but its really when the world shakes all the people jump.

Water is life

Light is Life

together with soil and mans gardening and seeding the Sun and Rain make Food

Food is Energy

Energy is Food

If you drive your car 100km with the same load the same way with half the fuel it dies..

If you carry your load the same way the same distance on half the food required you starve then die…

A 3000kj workload that eats 1800kj is starving itself eventually to death.

Any restriction on life is a crime causing death, causing food shortages or energy crisis or water crisis or t a x i n g life is a crime.

There is no shortage of food

There is no shortage of energy

UNLESS

You artificially restrict the supply and increase the price say with a $40 ton carbon tax to offset the worlds farting and breathing man made glabal warming conspiracy theorists and those working contributing nothing to global warming or any climate change are affected big time.

Then people cannot afford to grow the food or buy the food or transport the food or store or sell the food without massive increases.

It takes up to 10 times x the energy of the food itself to grow the food transport the food process the food store the food sell the food and buy the food and cook the food.

The worlds people have allowed the worlds food and energy to be gambled and sold bought and owned by the most rich most careless profit minded bloated ugly cruel and powerful minority group in the world.

Food is now a weapon, fuel is a weapon, water is a weapon and now air itself is a weapon that can and does cause death injury pain and poverty.

You forget the people are important, more so than man made theories designed to cripple industry and the food chain itself, the worlds population is increasing, we need to keep doing what we ALL do here without mindless restriction and loaded costs causing poverty and milking the people who are supplying the food and raw materials at barrgain basement prices, we decide by hands what happens and yet a few hands dont care yet they have the keys to the solution and choose to inflict more misery.

Its not crop substitution its called when you raise the price of diesel 75% everything EVERY THING goes up 75% and more fertiliser is petrochemical hydrocarbon based, tractors and trucks are INPUTS into food price costs…they ALL use Oil/Diesel.

Bio fuels are not responsible for oil prices, wars are..make a graph pre George W and where the Oil is today…count the President Vice President and Secretary of State 1.2..3 right then who hasnt got the OIL background ?

Our oil is our 3rd biggest export after coal and iron ore..
1. coal hydrocarbon
2. iron ore = hydrocarbon to dig and transport
3. OIL

We giveaway our LNG to china for a few cents per litre…and pay nearly a dollar

We giveaway our Oil to Vietnam and Indonesia so they can cut it refine it or crack it and we buy it back $125 per barrell..

The numbest dumbest bunch of gutless cowards in the world cant even give us our food and fuel for what it costs.

The mandarins want cheap supply but have increased input costs..it works as a multiplier not a reducer. Same with interest rates it feeds the fire it claims to put out. As it is another cost to input it becomes a output increase.

Then theres our electricity costs 6cents per kwh to produce at your friendly State owned supplier but sells it back to you the owner at nearly 20cents per kwh baaaaaaaaaa moooooo its okaaaay this is already a TAX and they want to add another T A X.

When$$ the carbon t a x hits around $40 a ton, you’ll need a
par lie mental pension to travel eat and heat.

Rather than trying to be one of the methane co2 greenhouse doomsayers

and be out of a job political or civil..or hungry or cold or in poverty

Why not recognise that whilst we can and will improve our efficiency Australians have the best record in the entire world;

5% of the world yet using just 2.5% of the emmissions.

5%-2.5 = +2.5% credit…wheres my credits someones stealing my credits someones forgotten my credits.

One acre of pine stores 1 ton of carbon per annum

In 200 billion acres we have more trees than what we need…

We are net consumers of greenhouse gas not as the rest of the overpopulated undervegetated world is also benefiting from our production of up to a third 33% of the worlds food and raw materials at bargain basement prices.

Even the corresponding imports of manufactured items are inflated x 5 and we pay dearly in giving it cheap and buying dearly.

Australia has not exploited its trees at the sake of the atmosphere we have 100 acres per Australian man woman and baby only 1.5% of it is urbanised this has trees also look around…only 7% is arable ploughable land this has many trees then the remainder is forest shrublands and native vegetation.

If Parliament carbon taxes australia its a crime, we are the greenest people on the planet despite our industry.

We need a referendum on man made global warming conspiracy theory.

Offsetting the poor and certain industries is only transferring the pain directly to working families those who pay and their employer or employment and dont forget your mates the third world which likes to eat at $2 a day…and gets very upset if they dont…

By the way theres 1.5 billion farting chainmen up north what do you suggest we do feed them or tell them shops shut ?

Theres plenty of opportunity to count the trees and divide by 21 million ..thank you

We could double emmissions today and double production and still be carbon tax free and neutral but nah hit em harder but smile and sympathise.

Just today newsflash plant a tree day 1 million trees got planted today here, our farmers have been doing more than this for years, tell Australia we can either get our credits or get a chainsaw

82 percent of Australia is covered by forest and shrublands.

And 5 % of Australia has greater than 30% foliage cover

Vegetation Questionairre.

a) What is the estimated tonnage of vegetation in Australia ? ___

b) What is the estimated annual conversion of Australiaïas vegetation into oxygen ? ___

c) What is the estimated annual production of Australians Co2 ? _____

d) Is it true that Australia has over 5% of the worlds land ?________

e) Is it true that Australia uses just 2.5% of the worlds carbon emission ? Yes or No

f) Is it true that Australia has the best case for carbon credits no debt and the capacity to double its carbon emission without penalty or debt ? Yes or No

g) What percentage of Australians believe in the man made global warming conspiracy theory ?_%

h) Is it true that a Nation of less than 22 million people is sharing the worlds biggest share of vegetation per capita yet uses or naturally sesquates double its share of the carbon itself that is vegetation converts to oxygen yet is being forced to accept it is a debit not a credit to the world ? Yes or No

i)Do you believe in the man made global warming conspiracy theory ? Yes or No

ii)Do you believe in other conspiracy theories please detail
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Thank you for participating

Mike