Agmates Editor Steve Truman writes:
The hypocrisies of the Australian media making us all feel guilty for destroying the Australian environment is mind numbing. The media reporting on ratbag radical greens illegal activities over the weekend is outrageous.
The weekend just gone we saw Greenpeace activist taking illegal radical action. In QLD 9 activists broke into Swanbank power station just west of Brisbane demanding it be shut down during the Rudd governments current term of office. In Newcastle almost 30 activists chained themselves to a coal conveyor at a Lake Macquarie power station.
Greenpeace activist Simon Roz was reported as saying:
“We make no apology at all for the fact that our action is highlighting the urgent need to address greenhouse pollution.
Coal is responsible for a third of our national emissions and we simply must replace coal with renewable energy if we’re to have any hope of averting dangerous climate change.”
Why as a nation do we let the media condition us that we should feel guilty because we are a resource rich nation? It has got to the incredibly mad state that in 18 months time Australia must wear the carbon tax ‘green hair shirt’ to pay for our wicked ways.
And pay for our sins we will thanks to the Rudd governments world leading emissions trading scheme.
This is how ridiculous it is in a world context. Lets look at The United Arab Emerates. A stretch of desert that just happens to also resource rick, not in coal - just oil. See my google map of its location
Photo #1: Dubai in 1990 prior to the oil boom. A hot dry desolate place.
Photo #2: The same street in 2003 just 17 years later. All this tremendous wealth from Oil.
Photo #3: The same street in 2007.
Photo #4: Dubai In the midst of an unbelievable building boom. Dubai is said to currently have 15-25% of all the world’s cranes.
Photo #5: The Dubai Waterfront. When completed it will become the largest waterfront development in the world. Click here to see Wikipedia’s description of the water front development.
Photo #6: Most of this was built in the last 5 years, including the man made island that looks like a palm tree. All from money from oil.
Photo #7: The Palm Islands in Dubai. New Dutch dredging technology was used to create these massive man made islands. They are the largest artificial islands in the world and can be seen from space. Three of these Palms will be built with the last one being the largest of them all.
Upon completion, the resort will have 2,000 villas, 40 luxury hotels, shopping centers, movie theaters, and many other facilities. It is expected to support a population of approximately 500,000 people. It is advertised as being visible from the moon.
Photo #8: The Burj al-Arab hotel in Dubai. Currently the worlds tallest hotel. Considered the only ‘7 star’ hotel and the most luxurious hotel in the world. It stands on an artificial island in the sea.
Photo #9: Hydropolis will be the world’s first underwater hotel and is being entirely built in Germany and then assembled in Dubai. It is scheduled to be completed by 2009.
Photo #10: This is what downtown Dubai will look like around 2008-2009. The building in the Centre is the Burg Dubai which began construction in 2005 and is expected to be completed this year. At an estimated height of over 800 meters, it will easily be world’s tallest building when finished. It will be almost 40% taller than the the current tallest building, the Yaipei 101.
Photo #11; But it won’t be the tallest building for long. Below is an artist impression of the The Al Burj. This will be the centerpiece of the Dubai Waterfront. Once completed it will take over the title of the tallest structure in the world from the Burj Dubai. The final height of this tower will is expected to be 1200 meters. That would make it more than 30% taller than the Burj Dubai and three times as tall as the Empire State Building.
Photo #12: Currently being built - Dubailand Amusement park which will be twice the size of Walt Disney Land in Orlando Florida. Currently, the walt Disney World resort is the largest amusement park collection in the world and also the largest single-site employer in the United states with 58,000 employees.
Walt Disney World Resort is the #1 tourist destination in the world. Once fully completed, Dubailand will easily take over that title since it is expected to attract 200,000 visitors daily.
Photo #13: The Dubai Marina is an entirely man made development that will contain over 200 highrise buildings when finished. It will be home to some of the tallest residential structures in the world. The completed first phase of the project is shown. Most of the other high rise buildings will be finished by 2009-2010. The Dubai Mall will be the largest shopping mall in the world with over 9 million square feet of shopping and around 1000 stores. It will should be completed in this year.
Some of the tallest buildings in the world, such as Ocean Heights and The Princess Tower, which will be the largest residential building in the world at over a 100 stories, will line the DubaiMarina.
The Dubai Metro system, once completed, will become the largest fully automated rail system in the world.
The Dubai World Central International Airport will become the largest airport in size when it is completed. It will also eventually become the busiest airport in the world, based on passenger volume.
Why don’t we see Greenpeace activists chaining themselves to oil wells in The United Arab Emerates.
The answer is because the Arabs would never put up with them. They would be considered for just what they are - environmental terrorist and be shot on the spot.
We don’t see the Arabs implementing carbon emission trading schemes that will harm their economies. We don’t see them willing to kill off the ‘goose that lays the golden egg’ to pander to the international whip of human induced global warming.
Australia and New Zealand are bit players in the world economy. Yet Labor governments in both countries are determined to lead the world into a low carbon future. They are willing to risk crippling their economies and cause immense financial suffering to their citizens to lead the world.
They would like us to believe they they can influence the Arabs, the Chinese, the USA and the Russians into following their lead.
If we as a nation are gullible enough to believe that spin - God help us.
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What you tend to find with many Greenpeace policies, Steve,
is that someone else gets hurt,but they are a long way from where the activists live, and are struggling to survive.
On the GM front Greenpeace spreads false information about GM rice, and delays life-saving improvements in food for poor people who lack enough vitamin A and get sick (about 2 million people (kids) a year die from vitamin A deficiency) .
Meanwhile Greenpeace is funded by rich well fed people living at the other end of the globe.
In the middle of the current rice crisis in the Philippines, with emergency rice supplies being shipped from the USA, Greenpeace were scaremongering about “GM contamination” in the middle of a hunger crisis, with rice prices rocketing up. That’s worse than shouting fire in a packed theater.
I look forward to one-day meeting the donation-collector people on the street to tell them what I think of this kind of behaviour.
G’day David,
Yes I saw something on that recently. It is an absolute scandal yet receives virtually no media coverage at all. Do these people have no conscience at all. How many children do terrorist kill around the world a year?
Yet these green terrorist kill 2 million children in poor 3rd world countries a year through their lies and scaremongering.
There was a very good critique of the Greens QLD protest in todays courier mail by Paul Syvret.
“Protest Powered by Hypocrisy“. Its worth a read.
uhhh green terrorists are starving people? It wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact that there is enough food produced to feed the entire planet but it is spread so unequally and copious amounts are wasted? The food crises wouldn’t be to do with economic speculation on the price of food commodities driving price would it?
Agmates, you claim to be skeptical of these ‘fear mongering’ campaigns but have you stopped and read your own walls? It is full of conspiracy theories about how someone is fooling you to take your money or property. There is nothing but fear mongering suspicion on this site!
I fear that without open minds and actually listening your style of agriculture WILL become irrelevant. Not everything is a scam, not every greenie is evil and not every farmer thinks that they can prosper at the expense of the environment.
As for the price of oil, simple economics of supply and demand will tell you that as oil becomes scarce the price goes up. Last time i checked demand was going up and all the major oilfields have been discovered and are running out.
Something tells me you want to deny all this because actually accepting that some things need to change will require you to change your ways of doing things… Unacceptable?
Ah Nick,
While ever Greenpeace and the myriad of other green hangers-on support the fairy story of Anthropogenic Global Warming/ Man Made Climate Change as a method of socialist wealth distribution, your argument will lack credibility.
Such as your argument about the price of oil. Why are the OECD countries reducing output? Would it not be that as we are using less of it, it is becoming cheaper (smaller cars, hybrid vehicles, alternate fuels), by reducing output keeps the price up.(but notice the barrel price is under $70USD at the moment)
As far as all the major oilfield being discovered, that is in doubt - they tried telling us that in the ’70’s. Yes peak oil is in the future, but not today - see above article on Dubai.
In the US the oilfields that are being locked up by green based legislation (ANWR, west coast shelf, Gulf off shore) and the refinery capacity that cannot be upgraded or replaced also because of litigation by greens, is costing their economy plenty.
But I haven’t seen any protest by Greenpeace about the Chinese/Cuban consortium about to drill 45miles of the US coast in the Gulf of Mexico
Greenpeace is protesting and using legal means to stop oil piping being laid to bring the crude stock from the Alberta oil sands to refineries in the US.
You come on here and lay it on the local agricultural community, and yet your probably one of the “Dob in a farmer” types that feed information to the Total Environment Centre (TEC), to prosecute some poor guy for cutting down a tree.
Oh, and where does your food come from? Out of a can? Milk from China?(hopefully with melamine flavouring)
Your argument about oil does not carry much weight Jeff. Oil usage is growing by 1% a year in industrialised countries and by 7.5% in China (will double in 10 yrs) and 5% in India. These are massive increases… fuel economy of hybrids has played no reduction. The fact is that the way our western growth economies operate is that adding or discovering fuel will not solve the problem. Fuel prices may drop in the short term but they will rise again because more people will drive and buy cars if the price is cheap.
Your theory about socialist wealth distribution as a result of global warming is really laughable. You claim that the science is unbelievable however a crackpot theory about marxist greenies fooling the whole world to redistribute wealth is really believable.
Again i think you and all your denying buddies will hold on to the notion that global warming is false because if you did accept it you may have to actually change some of your behaviour. You should be sceptical of governments and advocates of any cause, i dont promote blind acceptance. But this is overwhelming evidence.
Ah Nick,
I think Kevin J Smith’s post below covers it pretty well, and as I’m an old codger as well, only a few year younger than young K.J.S., I do approve of his sentiments.
And to the ~$70 a barrel oil pricing, it isn’t generosity is it?
Something the Arab states aren’t known for, particularly with the West.
Can you explain in all your wisdom why the OECD countries are calling for reduction of production?
You state at the end of your post: “But this is overwhelming evidence” in regard to that rather out-dated term “global warming”.(’Cause it ain’t warming and the poles aren’t melting, and the oceans haven’t risen 20 metres)
Why don’t you stick to the usual Alarmist’s rhetoric and call it “Man Made Climate Change”, and then you can blame EVERYTHING on CO2 and cows belching methane.
Can you please explain: “What evidence is there that more CO2 forces temperature up further?”
Please don’t include data derived from computer (Playstation(R)) modeling.
I think the ‘peak oil’ story is very likely a big con.
I read somewhere that Iran, Venezuela and Russia want the oil price within a band of 60 to 70 dollars a barrel but OPEC mainly Saudi Arabia pushed by the US want it above 100 and more so they have cut back production. The Saudi kingdom dictatorship only stays in power with US backing. I am sure ordinary people hate it especially women who want to drive.
Smaller countries and Russia are having their say and old empire countries don’t like it but the shift is on and we will have to adjust our thinking in the western world to the new set-up.
(The price at the bowser here seems to have a great deal of trouble coming down - I suppose the government would say it is because the low Oz dollar)
What do you mean the ice caps aren’t melting?
And how does your comment about oil being 70$ a barrel prove anything. Any state that is selling oil want to make as much money as they can. Granted. They want the price to be a high as possible. Granted.
But when the world is physically constrained by the amount of oil available (because of the specific geological factors which were needed to create it) and all the major oil fields have been discovered then eventually demands moves above supply and the price goes up and up and up.
And the sooner we shift our dependence away from oil and coal (as the price on carbon increases) then the better for our economy.
I’ll sit here and argue with you all day but I’m worried about the agricultural industry as a whole because if it doesn’t adapt we are all buggered.
Gee Nick,
Your just going to have to stop reading the “daily rag” and get your information from the scientists.
Cryosphere Today
Here you can compare today’s Arctic ice cover with any other date back to 1979, after you wait for it to load, look down the page at the ‘compare’ boxes. Change the dates, so you CAN see the changes, seasonal and year by year. Also see the differences between new ice and firm old ice.
Then look at the chart produced by the Japanese Arctic Research Centre:
And compare the ice cover over the last few years, to see that the recovery for 2008 is faster than previous years.
It’s not real difficult, just don’t read and believe “crap”.
HA! Would you like the info from the scientists? The National Snow and Ice Data Centre, the US foremost research body into arctic ice cover. 3 peer reviewed articles are referred to.. count em.
They use the same images as you pointed me to… i dunno though Jeffy maybe you picked up something they didn’t. I dunno why you dont publish or broadcast your discoveries beyond AGMATES? It’s not because you would be ridiculed is it?
If you want to get your info from the scientists go and read IPCC report which has contributions from 2500 scientists. But those are probably funded by greenpeace aren’t they? Or its all bullshit because governments really want to tackle this problem which has no easy solutions and is a policy headache… Thank god you let me in on the conspiracies.
Conspiracies Nick?
All I wanted you to do was answer:
“What evidence is there that more CO2 forces temperature up further?”
Please don’t include data derived from computer (Playstation(R)) modeling.
Nick, your the person who held up an article from the MSM in “The Age” as authoritive. I have just pointed to two sites which are scientist based, first person and not rattled down through the filters of the MSM.
Now please don’t get picky and start waving the “conspiracy” flag, it does not become you.
And what’s wrong with posting information on Agmates? Agmates has a good cross section of rural people that make observations and can discuss them, something that ‘city folk’ can’t or won’t.
I have read ‘most’ of AR4, I also have read the statistics from the IPCC about the actual reviewers and the breakdown of what was signed and what was reviewed. (An IPCC document - boring and statistical)
I have also read the comments from scientists that have walked away from the AR4 and IPCC, because of it’s conclusions.
Jeez, it’s starting to get a bit skinny in this column. - See my posts a bit lower on this topic.
Thanks Jeff,
I’m not sure whether I should be worried or not. On Cryosphere today (link above) I notice there is a “Black Hole” appearing in the Artic Sea pictures.
I’m not particularly worried about being consumed by the black hole; what worries me is the prospect of Black Hole Tax on top of the ETS (TAX)
On the farm we learned to deal with pestilence but the laws are against us taking ANY action to dispense or disperse these green pests.
This climate change “SCAM” is no more than a scheme of the Rich and powerful, to collect the worlds money for themselves.The culprits are cooking up these schemes to frighten us into panic so as we will give up our freedom in replacement for security.
This ETS is a very clever ploy as it is really not possible to “really and unquestionably” prove any of the claims on paper. In my lifetime [70 yrs] I can remember the petroleum hoax of the Fraser Government ie, the exhaustion of crude oil by 2000.
I can also recall the ozone layer hoax which ended in total monopoly control over refrigeration industry worldwide with its escalation of components and refrigerants to an astronomical level and of course leaves it open to actually take control over the preservation of our food.Ozone hole propaganda has since become silenced.
Then we had the Y2k computer hoax which only some computer experts were conversant with and which turned out to be false ,but still a lot of money changed hands as a result.Then we have had the Global warming hoax that was only correct from winter to summer or AM to Pm however it still fooled the gullible green Idiots.
Now its climate change. But this one may just be the final chapter as the ETS has the capacity to bankrupt the world.The beneficiaries are world bank and IMF with all their “super elite” hangers on .
I wish to propose some pertinent questions on these subjects but I will leave it to a later edition for readers to consider.
Yours truly Kevin J Smith
G’day Kevin,
Well done. Your have hit the nail on the head. And don’t the mainstream media love to propagate these scare campaigns.
I think you got nearly every scare campaign in the last 40 years, except maybe the 9/11 war on terror.
Steve,
Love this post. I was looking at posting the same info on Dubai, but you have done it very well.
Now further on this smokescreen called Climate Change and the bank ‘bailout’ of $700bnUSD.
While some of are busting our guts to feed the family and fill our fuel tank, you’ve got this lot.
Due to the “feedback” from Nick, above I feel that I should also post:
“One Hundred Years of Drought and Flooding Rains”
From On line Opinion:
I feel our rural food producers can relate to this piece, particularly when our Environment and Water Minister is hell-bent in buying up air in peoples dams.
Question: Who owns the water in the dams and rivers when it does rain, and when it does eventually flood?
For those who think the Science (of Climate Change) is settled, just check the disclaimers of our own CSIRO - various states:
http://tinyurl.com/6qrm2w
Hi John Michelmore,
LOL
I feel the black hole is supposed to represent the North Pole in that series, but your right, probably where the ETS is going to take us.
The pix of interest are the ‘Compare’ down the page, you can set dates for comparison on any dates from 1979 up to present.
Thanks Jeff,
Got it to work.
Are those white dots polar bears lined up along the coast looking for seals?