SE QLD Farmer and Chairman of the “Carbon Sense” group Viv Forbes writes:
Responding to the draft Garnaut report, it is becoming very clear that carbon dioxide is not a key driver of earth’s temperature, and attempts to reduce man’s emissions of CO2 will do more harm than good.
There is certainly no justification for the premature imposition of any de-carbonisation proposals in Australia - no emissions trading systems, no cap and trade nonsense, no subsidies for converting food to motor spirit, no mandating of fairyland energy proposals, no geo-sequestration and no more carbon taxes.
Photo of “Carbon Sense” Chairman Viv Forbes. Viv farmers in South East QLD and breeds Stud and commercial Damara Sheep. Seen here hold a Damara Ram.
However, if we were forced to choose between all the above unpalatable de-carbonisation alternatives, “Carbon Sense” would reluctantly support a simple carbon tax on all net direct emissions of CO2 from all industries. This should be accompanied by the IMMEDIATE abolition of all the other state and federal legislated Greenhouse foolishness.
As soon as the climate and the science make it clear, even to economists such as Professor Ross Garnaut (pictured), that man does not control the climate, we can then easily abolish the silly carbon tax.
(Editors Note:
All four major global temperature tracking outlets Hadley, NASA’s GISS, UAH, RSS have released updated data which show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped dramatically. Check the Graphic out for yourself by Clicking Here.
Meteorologist Anthony Watts compiled the results of all the sources. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C. All in one year time. For all sources, it’s the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.)
The Precautionary Principle so loved by those spreading doomsday stories on everything, even suggest that a simple carbon tax is far less risky than grandiose plans to create an expensive and artificial bubble industry based on Carbon Emissions Trading.
The immediate effect of cap and trade legislation is the creation of new electronic assets called “permits to emit” with no reality, no separate existence, no asset backing and no intrinsic value whatsoever. Their value depends solely on a politician’s promise that people holding an emissions permit will have a protected position compared to those without a permit.
As soon as the government creates these securities with no substance and the Carbon Bank which stores no carbon, a huge new artificial industry will be created. There will be administrators and auditors, bankers and brokers, barristers and bureaucrats, carbon credit farmers and foresters, lawyers and lobbyists, traders and tax advisers, and all the high paid never ending research jobs in Zero-Gen and Zero emissions.
This picture shows how nature works in hard times. Look at the co-operation on our farm, between our Senepol Bull, who is pushing over the Leucaena saplings so he and the Damara, Dorper and Meatmaster rams can get a feed.
To some people, the Greenhouse industry looks like the saviour of Australia after the last coal mine and the last cement plant are closed, the last farm becomes a carbon credit plantation, and the sounds of planes, trains, trucks, tractors and dozers are no longer heard in the land.
Decarbonisation will never create one more roof on a new house, a slice of toast on one plate, a steak on a single barby, a blanket on one bed or a light in one dunny. And the warm inner glow from Canberra will not boil one kettle in Cairns.
When the real economy dies, so too will this huge parasitic bubble economy manufactured in Parliament. It will be better for all concerned that it is never created.”
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This guy Forbes is spot on - as usual.
Any tax or carbon caps would be disastrous. It’s a con.
Some facts, a few questions and two conclusions:
FACT - CO2 is a natural colourless, odourless, tasteless, non-toxic gas.
FACT - CO2 is 0.038% of the atmosphere - yes, about a miniscule one 30th of one percent!!!
FACT - CO2 is essential for all plant life. As all farmers know, plants take in CO2 and produce oxygen - which as all farmers know is essential for all animals including humans. Do city folk and governments not understand this?
FACT - plant growth and crop yields increase even with small increases in CO2 content
FACT - Carbon is in virtually ALL our food. Plants take in CO2 to make plant matter containing carbon. Animals eat plants to make carbon. Humans eat fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts containing carbon and eat meat containing carbon. Carbon is essential for all life on earth and CO2 is its life blood. (Plus, agriculture and food processing refines and transports food using carbon based fuels)
FACT - when we eat food we “burn” the carbon in the food and produce CO2. Does that make humans polluters? Does that make all animals polluters? The next time I see a beautiful photo of cattle grazing or a mob of roos hopping through the bush, or a koala in a gum tree do I have to label them polluters?
FACT - CO2 is NOT a pollutant
FACT - almost all CO2 is produced by nature - 95%. Man’s production of CO2 is just one 20th
FACT - water vapour accounts for 95% of the greenhouse effect. CO2 and methane make up the remaining 5%
FACT = nature produces almost all the earth’s water vapour. Man produces negligible
FACT - the marginal greenhouse effect of additional CO2 decreases. In other words, as the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases, the effect of each increase reduces. Current levels of CO2 are thought to be close to the point when additional CO2 has no impact
FACT - CO2 is now recognised by scientists worldwide to have a minute, negligible impact on global temperatures
FACT - CO2 increases on earth historically lag temperature increases by 400-800 years. In other words, CO2 does not drive temperature. The reality is that increasing temperature causes CO2 to increase
FACT - the Krakatoa volcanic explosion in 1883 spewed out far more CO2 and real pollutants than has been made by man over the whole of man’s industrialisation since 1850. Much more. Within a few years, this vast amount of CO2 and real pollutants was offset by nature and climate returned completely to normal. In just a few years
FACT - similarly for Pinatubo and Mt St Helens eruptions with their huge releases of CO2
FACT - climate models used by the IPCC to forecast temperatures 20 and even 50 years into the future are now proven by leading scientists to be hugely inaccurate. These models even reverse the actual direction of natural climate adjustment to clmiate changes and that’s why they make such alarming forecasts. The models cannot predict the climate one year into the future yet form the basis of the IPCC’s forecasts. And the alarmists’ cries of catastrophe. So, while the earth has shown it can handle far greater CO2 releases, climate models show the climate gets worse as CO2 increases. This ignores reality. It reverses reality
FACT - the sun each year sends out greater than 23,000 times the amount of energy generated by all man made energy sources (including power stations, cars, etc). Man is puny as anyone with just a passing interest in the weather, or in nature or the environment knows
FACT - the latest scientific research shows some the major drivers of climate change (warming and cooling) are:
1. the amount of energy from the sun
2. the type of solar wind from the sun (effects cloud formation)
3. water vapour
4. cloud formation
5. ocean salinity
6. ocean and atmospheric cycles
and hundreds of other integrated and interdependent factors many of which have far greater impact than CO2
FACT - thanks to Aqua satellite launched in 2003, scientists have learned that as temperature rises, the natural climate system compensates with negative feedback driving to offset the temperature increase
FACT - seen over the longer term (a few thousand years) earth’s climate is stable with variation around the mean. This is despite impact of volcanoes belching CO2 that dwarfs man’s production of CO2
FACT - global temperatures during the last 2,000 years have been much higher and much lower than current temperatures. All animal and plant species currently on earth have always adapted. They’ve been through far greater temperature ranges and thrived
FACT - geological records, temperature proxies and history show animals, plants and mankind have flourished during the warmer (greenhouse) periods. Why? Life is easier.
FACT - the sun has a huge impact on earth’s climate. The sun’s energy output varies enormously and with that so does earth’s temperature
FACT - sun’s energy and radiation output varies with time over cycles of various length, including some regular, known changes in temperature. eg, daily (night and day), daily depending on amount of cloud cover, seasonal (summer and winter), and over decades. Plants and animals cope - as they have done for millions of years. Why? They evolved in this climate system with its regular and irregular variation between stable upper and lower temperature limits
Lets summarise so far:
FACT - we have a harmless gas (CO2) that is not a pollutant making up a miniscule 0.038% of the atmosphere. Then to that miniscule proportion, of the amount produced each year man produces just 5%. Then, of this tiny, tiny proportion of a miniscule gas CO2 and methane are just 5% of the greenhouse effect. And adding more CO2 will not increase greenhouse effect.
So, increasing CO2 will have no impact on climate but will have considerable benefit to plant growth and agricultural yields
It makes sense to increase CO2 production - not cut CO2!
Instead of this reality, our governments plan to tax the energy consumer (food producers, families, hospitals, schools, manufacturers - every person in our society) for no benefit. And huge negatives in increased costs of food, living.
Who loses? We all do. Especially the poor in our nation and even more so the poor in developing nations
Over Easter a professor of ecology stated on ABC Radio National that economists modelling the governments options for taxing carbon estimate an additional 7-20 billion dollars in taxes ANNUALLY.
That’s up to $1,000 each year for every man, woman and child! For what? Damage to our economy and wealth redistribution to governments, energy interests and merchant bankers.
Who benefits? The energy producers and the government.
Up to $1,000 per person to solve a non-problem. Where’s the logic in this?
Meanwhile, Al Gore says CO2 is a dangerous pollutant threatening the future of mankind and implores us all to make sacrifices in our lifestyle. Yet in his three mansions, extensive air travel and use of cars Al Gore apparently generates far more CO2 than the typical citizen. It’s been publicly stated that after public embarrassment of this fact he started to invest in energy saving measures for his homes. His “carbon footprint” still remained much higher than the typical citizen’s. He then claimed he was paying carbon credits to offset this CO2 production - even though that will do nothing to meet his public pleading to reduce CO2. To which company does he pay carbon credits? To the company of which he is founder, major shareholder and Chairman!
If the USA introduces a Cap-and-Trade system for limiting carbon use, Al Gore will likely become the world’s first eco-billionaire. These are just some of his money making avenues from his claimed greenness.
Why doesn’t he talk much about this personal gain, his apparent conflict of interests?
During the 1970’s, Hanson, one of Al Gore’s cronie alarmists, was reported in the Washington Post newspaper to have warned the world that the earth was entering a period of catastrophic cooling leading to the worst of catastrophic ice ages. According to Hanson (and many in the media), man’s survival was at stake. And the culprit according to Hanson in the Washington Post? The burning of fossil fuels.
It’s increasingly clear to me the whole thing is a sham - a con.
We need to stop getting our “science” from newspaper front pages. And from politicians with personal financial or electoral interests.
Families, farmers and other hard-working people daily generating the real wealth of our nation and of the world. We are the targets of this economic bubble.
I’m amazed Aussie farmers are being conned so easily.
Malcolm Roberts
More common sense as usual from Viv Forbes.
Lets hear more of him
A good summary of the likely effects such increasingly unrealistic attempts to stop climate change will have on our economy and industries.
To blame man-made carbon dioxide as the driving force behind global warming and then to try to control this by carbon emissions trading seems destined to achieve nothing but higher costs while the vagaries of nature continue to dictate our climate.
If you asked the slowest kid in school “What controls earth’s temperature?”, I’m sure they would pick: the sun, the clouds, the wind or the oceans.
Only a computer model built by a government employee would say: “It is all controlled by man’s tiny addition of an invisible gas comprising less than 0.04% of the atmosphere that has caused the global warming that started eons ago when the last Ice Age ended.
We need to look at Climate History and maintain a sense of perspective. In the grand cycles of the Cosmos, man is a spectator, not the prime player.
Well said
Viv forgot the most important conclusion:
“that Decarbonisation will never create a drop of any noticeable degree in the temperature of the earth!” to his following paragraph:
“Decarbonisation will never create one more roof on a new house, a slice of toast on one plate, a steak on a single barby, a blanket on one bed or a light in one dunny. And the warm inner glow from Canberra will not boil one kettle in Cairns.”